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Houses, link

There are already over 300 houses built or to be built on that Ince site, so maybe 500 new dwellings,plus the Standish site,and the boat people, no wonder A&E are not coping.

"Once the development is finished, the idea is that the houses will be accessible for residents via Rectory Lane as originally planned."

Standish junction (where the traffic lights are) is extremely congested and especially at the times when many people are going to work and going home from work. Even though the council have tried to improve the flow of traffic at and around this junction, it is a junction which cannot really be improved - unless, the buildings in this area are demolished.

Also, I wonder how many public amenities are going to be built?

We need more medical centres, dental practices, hospitals etc. Some of these areas no longer have a Police Station. It seems fine to allow such building companies like Wain Homes to build houses where and when ever possible without the consideration of the public needs for a safe, healthy and stress-free life.

Additionally, I am sure that we are going to hear and see the words: "AFFORDABLE HOUSING".

I think that what has happened to Standish over the last 40yrs in the development of large housing estates is awful, because the infrastructure is basically the same as it always was, but for some stupid reason to me, property prices in Standish can fetch twice as much as in other parts of the Borough, because it is regarded as a 'desirable residential area', well it was, until they built those thousands of houses, and all due respect to born and bred Standishers, but it is not exactly a picturesque village, nestling in the Cotswolds is it, and it never has been, it is no better than somewhere such as Billinge, or Orrell, and numerous other places I could name in the Metropolitan Borough of Wigan.

And why of why, have they turned that shitty horrible wall of the old Bleachworks into a listed structure

I am surprised that asylum seekers would want to be housed there

Anyone who knows me on here, knows that I have always called Standish rotten

BUT

As regards that Higher Ince Development, I think that is a good idea, because it will brighten up the area, with more housing replacing the old industrial areas of Ince, because infrastructure wise, it looks like the new road is going to be extended both ways to the M58 at Orrell, and the other way up to Bolton via Ince, so transport and traffic issues will not be a problem, and overall in Ince, it will increase property prices for existing properties there

"desirable residential area" ?
Tommy, it is probably due to the comparisons. Compare the place to a rough area with a high crime rate and Standish is a better place to live. But, I agree, Standish is certainly not the desirable place it once was. There is a big traffic problem and it is probably almost impossible to get dental treatment if you are new to the area. Also, it is probably not that easy to get your child into one of the schools in the area. I think, Standish Community High School now has over 1,200 students (pupils).

Bleachworks! A place of historical value and archictectural splendour.

By the way, why have you always called Standish rotten?

My take on Standish is one not complimentary ! As my daughter lives there she Really struggles to get to see a DOCTOR i think there is only 1 yes 1 for the size of the town,Next Dentist i believe there is only 1 , when one considers the growth of new house's in the area there are liteally hundreds and hundreds of new house ,yet the facilities have NEVER increased .
Now we turn to the matter of the roads and cars the High Street in Standish ie traffic lights junction for me is one of the worst in and around the Wigan area .
Then we move onto the illegal problems with the Brittanis Hotel housing only young (LAZY) men &boys ,, Next now is KILHEY COURT again housing hundreds of the same illegal 's men&boys only (bone idle layabouts )
To summarise with all these extra problems to add further housing to the area WITHOUT INCREASING the amenities is UTTER BONKERS !! As i say my daughters' in-laws loved the old Standish ,but no more the area has taken a nose dive for the worse .
G.B.

"My take on Standish is one not complimentary!"

Now there is a surprise

ianp

"By the way, why have you always called Standish rotten?"

I dunno, I think it is something to do with folk thinking it is posh, when by the begining of the 1960s it was mainly a large council housing estate, and certainly not posh, the posh thing comes from Wigan Road in Standish which is a continuation of the posh houses on Wigan Lane in Wigan, it is an overspill for the posh area of Wigan

I must admit though that I am starting to sound like an 'inverted snob'

GB, why are they “illegals”?

I agree with Tommy2stroke.
The only higher class part ( in my opinion ) is between the Boars Head public house and to approximately where the petrol station is,
which is basically an extension of Wigan Lane.
Apart from that, its not much different than other areas in the Wigan Borough.

Petrol station?

The petrol station that is / was on the left hand side at the top of the hill before you approached the Horse Shoe Pub?

So you don't know Standish very well at all, Chesh.

But yet you feel qualified to comment on it.

Cheshire Puss

The Petrol Station was Prospect Garage.



It is now a block of flats.



But yes, the posh houses stop just past there and the terraced pitmen's houses start

Posted by: lectriclegs (5606)
"So you don't know Standish very well at all, Chesh.
But yet you feel qualified to comment on it."

Not really, very well.
Do you?
I have passed through there a few times, so I think that qualifies me to comment on it

Edit. Thank you for clarifying that, Tommy

I know it very well, Chesh.

I've done work in Standish many times and they think I'm posh and they are right of course,,

Posted by: lectriclegs (5608)
"I know it very well, Chesh."

So , what is your opinion of the area, in general?

It's much better than most other areas in the borough, Chesh.

Tommy is right, it was Prospect Garage. One of the houses just down from the garage was Prospect Stores before it was totally renovated.
I know Standish well. In fact, I once knew the people who lived in those houses on the black and white photograph.
By the way, not taking the cars and the petrol prices into account, the black and white photograph looks very old: 1950's or early 1960's. But, I would say that it was taken about thirty years ago.

Tommy, I was going to type in my second post that Standish may have got some of its reputation for being "posh" from the area leading from The Cherry Gardens up to the last detached and semi-detached houses before reaching the shopping area in Standish.

Posted by: lectriclegs (5610)
"It's much better than most other areas in the borough, Chesh."

If I had a choice I would prefer the nearby areas of Wrightington or Parbold in the borough.
That's my personal choice.

Cheshirecat, you are totally entitled to having your own personal choice and parts of Wrightington and Parbold are very nice.
I think, we have our own personal choices where to live and some are influenced by our youthful years and the friends we had, and may still have, there.

Places in and around Wigan are changing and some, not for the better. Standish is definitely becoming crowded and spoilt by too much development.

Chesh, Wrightington and Parbold are not in Wigan borough, they're in West Lancs.

ianp

My comments about Standish are really just 'tongue in cheek'

So, you really love Standish.

Well I don't hate Standish.

But I still don't think it is posh though

Tommy, thanks for uploading those photographs, especially the first one.

Standish badly needs the new link road from Junction 27 of the M6 to be built via Elnup Wood to Woodhouse Drive to take traffic going in and out of Wigan away from Standish or else it is going to be a even bigger nightmare in Standish village centre with all the new houses which have been built with hundreds more to come in coming years.

In the seventies, there was even a plan for a small by-pass on the A49 to be built from Preston Road via Kenyon Road, across the top of School Lane, then Beech Walk, Standishwood to near the reservoir on Wigan Road.

Two schemes which like many road schemes around Wigan have never happend.

If Chorley can take traffic away from their town centre with a ring road system, what is the problem in just taking traffic away from a smaller village centre like Standish?

Its time that the elected Councillors in the Wards concerned started to do something about the problem in return for the money they receive in allowances!

re;ply tonker /
If they come across in boats they are bloody illegals so !
G.B.

Owd Codger

"Standish badly needs the new link road from Junction 27 of the M6 to be built via Elnup Wood to Woodhouse Drive"

They won't do that, because the trees will object

Posted by: lectriclegs (5611)
"Chesh, Wrightington and Parbold are not in Wigan borough, they're in West Lancs."

I don't recall saying / typing that Wrightington and Parbold are in the Wigan Borough

"If I had a choice I would prefer the nearby areas of Wrightington or Parbold in the borough.
That's my personal choice."

Replied: 10th Oct 2023 at 22:34.

Did I mention Wigan Borough?!
No, I did not

No point arguing with you, Chesh.
It's like playing chess with a pigeon.

If you want to impersonate a pigeon, carry on. Nothing I can do to stop you

As a born and bred Standisher of 50 years, I agree that the town now faces some major problems. It once was a village, and a very nice one at that, but the housing expansion and the complete oversight on making the roads fit for purpose has made it the nightmare it is. The very reason people wanted to move to Standish has proved to be its biggest issue. It now needs another medical practice of similar size to the existing opening up, along with another dentists. Then there maybe a chance of the population getting the treatment it needs, when it needs it. On roads, there is actually the road to nowhere at the Almond Brook Junction 27 that came to nothing when the M6 came to town ( village ) Maybe this can be revisited as it doesn't seem a problem ploughing over greenbelt these days. Perhaps the new houses will get in the way of any ringroad though. Standish isn't the place it used to be and it always tickled me when people from other areas called us posh. I certainly didn't perceive us that way. I moved away a few years ago but am close enough to be up there daily, especially with the Grandkids. It's sad to see the closure of the pubs that has occurred, a sign of the times I guess. As for the picture of Prospect Garage, a place I remember very well, the shot appears to be at least 1971, post decimalization, as 4 star is on sale at 59.9p a GALLON, I wish.

They are litres and I agree with the earlier comment that the photo was probably taken around 30yrs ago, and it is actually a photograph of a newspaper cutting, and I think that Prospect Garage closed in the 1990's and lasting a bit longer was the petrol station at the junction of Elmfield Road and Wigan Road, that closed down in the early 00's around about the time a brand new petrol station opened at the Boars Head junction

My earlier comment is, as Tommy has agreed with, correct about the time of the photograph being taken - about 30 years ago.
I would say that the photograph was taken about 1995.
1971 is impossible for more reasons than the prices of the petrol and this is why:
- there are four houses on the photograph (a bungalow, a pair of semi-detached houses and a detached house). The detached house was once Prospect Stores and was still a store in the seventies. On the photograph, it is a house and not a store. The renovation was done in the eighties. This only proves that the photograph was definitely not taken in the 1970's. But, ...
For all, examine the photograph and judge for yourself.

The first photograph brings back a lot of happy memories and I'd never seen it before.
But! The most important thing is what has happened to Standish and the continuation of claiming land for more housing. The population has greatly increased and is continuing to increase in an area which cannot handle this.

Tommy Two Stroke

Why do think there is a empty space facing the end of Woodhouse Drive which has been kept clear of any house building?

Your pathetic comment is as bad as your support for a MP who along with the other two previous Labour MP's and Council of the past seventy years or so have done nothing to get the government to build the link road and which if carried out would take away a great deal of the traffic going to and from the M6 away from the centre of Standish village centre and ease the crawling and gridlock on the four domestic roads of Preston Road, Rectory Lane, School Lane/Almond Brook Road and Wigan Road.

"They won't do it that, because the trees will object" just about sums up the level of activity of those concerned!

Personally I would prefer to put up with the congestion than loose that open countryside around Elnup Wood which is a great asset for us .
Perhaps in a decade the problem may solve itself when nobody can afford to electric vehicles.

link

MrsC

I don't think there will be many that are caught up in the daily traffic chaos around Standish which will go worse, will agree with your viewpoint.

When it comes to the point that you will no longer be able to buy a petrol or diesel car in a few years time, I think you will be surprised at how many will buy an electric car so in order to go about their daily live of getting to work, shopping, going on holiday etc.

Cars have become essential and the building of new roads a neccessay, irrespective of anything in it's path!

Owd Codger said:


"Tommy Two Stroke

Why do think there is a empty space facing the end of Woodhouse Drive which has been kept clear of any house building?

Your pathetic comment is as bad as your support for a MP who along with the other two previous Labour MP's and Council of the past seventy years or so have done nothing to get the government to build the link road

"They won't do it that, because the trees will object" just about sums up the level of activity of those concerned!"

Ooooohhh

Yoo Silly Owd Sausage

If you do a search in the search box at the top of this page, and search for 'Wigan M6 Northern Link Road' yoo will see that not only do I know about the 'protected land' opposite Woodhouse Drive, but I also have posted many times on here about the Wigan - M6 Northern Link Road.

But for a start Owd Codger, if yoo wuz a tree in Elnup Wood, and they said that they were going to chop you down in order to build that link road, you would object wouldn't you, unless you were a stupid tree, and in this day and age, it is all about 'minorities' being heard, the 'minorities' now take precedence over the 'majorities' so yes, the trees would object LINK

Oh dear, looks like I have upset one of the people who talk to the trees!

And I love sausages, especially Pork with Herbs!

Don Estelle’s Whispering Grass went to number one in the charts.

I have got a feeling that as regards the cancelation of HS2 and all those transport promises made last week, I think we are going to end up with nowt, because if the Conservatives win the next election, then they will cancel all those promises by saying that we can't afford them, and if Labour win at the next general election, they will do what Tony Blair did in 1997 which was to cancel all new road building, just like what the Welsh Labour Party have done in Wales, and instead of new roads, we will get that 30mph speed limit dropped to 20mph across all of England